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if they no taxes are going down, they will figure things. if they now taxes are staying the same, they will figure it out. right now it they are frozen -- they do not know. families are also in many ways frozen. they do not know whether they have to budget so that they will have $2,000 less next year. they do not know whether it will be $4,000. they do not now. the uncertainty is the fault of leaders who cannot get together. i think it is critical that we get a deal. i hope in the next couple of hours. to me -- somebody asked me, what is the difference if you get it now or five days from now? i say the difference is the uncertainty, this pall, an unnecessary and escalating crisis -- then you say, we do not have to do it now. we do it on the fourth. get it done. america wants us to get it done. the president has shown he is willing to be flexible. he has come out with some ideas i have had to except. he is willing. i know personally how strongly he feels that $250,000 should be where we draw the line in terms of tax breaks, but he was willing
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the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president obama says it a lot. the average family will end up spending $2,000 more if the fiscal cliff is not averted. let me show you something. you can find out how it would impact you directly by using this. there's a lot of numbers you have to plug in to make sense of it. obviously it can't be exact, it can't be precise, it can't predict the future, but i want to show you some examples we have pulled out. let's go to the graphic here that has a few of the examples we're showing you here. it would take, for example, this scenario, married with no
the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president...
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and if no agreement, taxes will go up for all americans. in fact, the average american family would see a tax increase of more than $3400. as congress convened, even the senate chaplain praying to avoid what the president called self-inflicted wounds. let's bring in jon carl. the source has told you the vice president has been called in on this. >> reporter: that's right. i'm told the vice president is now playing a direct role in these negotiations, trying to get to a deal, a last-minute deal, a key player in the final hours. president obama set off the high-stakes weekend scramble friday night imemployering congressional leaders to take action immediately. >> the american people are not going to have any patience fora i politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> reporter: with that harry reid and mitch mcconnell launched a latch-dimp effort to craft a bipt plan to that stop the tax hike going into effect on new year's day. they negotiated all day saturday. saturday night there was an offer. by this morning, a clear sense of optim
and if no agreement, taxes will go up for all americans. in fact, the average american family would see a tax increase of more than $3400. as congress convened, even the senate chaplain praying to avoid what the president called self-inflicted wounds. let's bring in jon carl. the source has told you the vice president has been called in on this. >> reporter: that's right. i'm told the vice president is now playing a direct role in these negotiations, trying to get to a deal, a last-minute...
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they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i understand it, about $600 billion. a significant reduction. if you don't have new revenue coming in from the wealthiest people, it will mean, as we go down the pike -- >> there are so many issues like, this that are -- have been originally talked about. but when push comes to shove, and it comes up to the absolute deadline and everybody is hopefully still talking tomorrow, how narrow could this deal be to get it done? >> how what? >> how narrow could this deal be? could it be just about whose taxes expire and whose don't? >> as i think some of your commentators made, people have to understand the world does not collapse in terms of the so-called deficit cliff, which many of us see as a slope. it doesn't collapse on january 1. not everybody's taxes are going up. you have
they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i understand it, about $600 billion. a significant reduction. if you don't have new revenue coming in from the wealthiest people, it will mean, as we go down the pike -- >> there are so many issues like, this that are -- have been originally...
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what are those tax increases? bush tax cuts expire at midnight tomorrow night and you'll wake up the next morning and face a higher tax rate unless congress acts. there's also a possibility of a $108 billion in spending cuts. this is largely the defense department as we talked about and also money that ends up in people's pockets. there's an economic impact. >> i misspoke, i said tuesday at midnight. tomorrow at midnight. >> yes, december 31. >> the money is personal for people. you start to talk about budging a household. for the average family? >> 3500 bucks is the income tax hit. >> above what they're paying. >> and additional 3500 for median income. that goes up dramatically the wealthier you are. tens of thousands of dollars more. you could on the hook for a real hit. >> the argument is the wealthy won't feel it but they won't spend it either. >> that's the point. a lot of those people paying higher taxes own small businesses and will opt not to hire and it will ripple through the economy. >> it hurts when i
what are those tax increases? bush tax cuts expire at midnight tomorrow night and you'll wake up the next morning and face a higher tax rate unless congress acts. there's also a possibility of a $108 billion in spending cuts. this is largely the defense department as we talked about and also money that ends up in people's pockets. there's an economic impact. >> i misspoke, i said tuesday at midnight. tomorrow at midnight. >> yes, december 31. >> the money is personal for...
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that we're talking about, whether it's something called the alternative minimum tax or the estate tax or extending the current bush-era income tax cuts, all of them cost money. all of them mean we have less revenue to support the operations of government, so if going forward we're going to reach a balance, where we both cut spending and raise revenue, we have to achieve the right balance of those, so if there are folks in the other party, the republican party, who feel strongly that we should not allow income tax breaks of the last decade to continue, that's fine. i think they simply need to be willing to balance that with some of the democratic priorities like extending unemployment insurance benefits for nearly 2 million unemployed americans who will lose them tomorrow. >> thank you senator chris coons for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up, former president george h.w. bush is out of icu, and the how the oak ridge boys may have helped lift his spirits. >>> and with less than 30 hours to go before the fiscal cliff, we're watching capitol hill for any kinds of a deal today. you'r
that we're talking about, whether it's something called the alternative minimum tax or the estate tax or extending the current bush-era income tax cuts, all of them cost money. all of them mean we have less revenue to support the operations of government, so if going forward we're going to reach a balance, where we both cut spending and raise revenue, we have to achieve the right balance of those, so if there are folks in the other party, the republican party, who feel strongly that we should...
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cut, increases in other taxes on families like the alternative minimum tax and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, there's this to think of, for 2 million unemployed worker, the loss of unemployment benefits. we have asked experts to join us for a fiscal cliff roundtable discussion, if you will. ron brownstein is a senior -- cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal and stephen moore, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal" and is in washington, d.c. first up, ron, will, do you think, these politicians reach a deal or not and why or why not? >> the fiscal cliff was yeelted as a doomsday machine to try to give them more will power to do what they can't do on their own, to reach a deal. the reason all of this was here, incentive to reach a deal, some of your guests pointed out during the day, a lot can go wrong when you leave is it to this late, a little little surprising to me republicans don't feel urgency, talk about this in a minute, maybe, the wolf on the other side of the cliff, difficult for both sides, the country is worse f
cut, increases in other taxes on families like the alternative minimum tax and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, there's this to think of, for 2 million unemployed worker, the loss of unemployment benefits. we have asked experts to join us for a fiscal cliff roundtable discussion, if you will. ron brownstein is a senior -- cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal and stephen moore, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal" and is...
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we are talking about every american's tax rates who pays taxes, talking about the extension of unemployment, the estate tax this has more elements in it than most things do i think at the end of the day, you know, in the senate now, i think the senate will come to some sort of arrangement, they will push it over here and then i think the house will be the decisive arena, a lot will depend, obviously, on what the senate agrees to >> isn't that the question what will happen in the house? i don't think we have a concern, maybe i shouldn't stay quite that way, the house seems to be the clear focus on whether or not republicans can muster the votes needed. what is going to happen? >> a lot depends on the nature of the agree weren't, remember on the speakers a plan b, he had over 200 republican votes are, it is not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal that john boehner can accept, then frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if, on the other hand, he is either neutral or not favorable, then his chances are going to be
we are talking about every american's tax rates who pays taxes, talking about the extension of unemployment, the estate tax this has more elements in it than most things do i think at the end of the day, you know, in the senate now, i think the senate will come to some sort of arrangement, they will push it over here and then i think the house will be the decisive arena, a lot will depend, obviously, on what the senate agrees to >> isn't that the question what will happen in the house? i...
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that is tax cut over 250, it's a tax increase. senator mcconnell may be trying to move that to $400,000. >> arthel: and then the notion of lowering social security payments is definitely off the table in terms of democrats' side? >> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that woul
that is tax cut over 250, it's a tax increase. senator mcconnell may be trying to move that to $400,000. >> arthel: and then the notion of lowering social security payments is definitely off the table in terms of democrats' side? >> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have...
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because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the subchapter s corporation. i think it would have a very significant effect. the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his j
because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the...
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all the tax cuts including the tax cuts for the wealthy expire on january 1. so that is sort of a short term advantage. these programs, medicare, social security are incredibly popular. cutting them is unpopular. republicans' basic agenda is to cut them. some want to cut them or reform them for totally good reasons that costs are rising over time and as the population ages they take up more and more of the economy and more government spending. they are at a strategic disadvantage which is they want to cut programs that are incredib incredibly popular. anytime you are set against the consensus of public opinion it is a difficult course. you have to acknowledge that reality. as long as obama and democrats have that they will have the leverage as we repeat the negotiations in the decades to come. >> thank you for joining me. stick around we will be speaking with you two later this hour. >>> coming up the republican who is not afraid to stand up to his own party joins us live. what does he make of the sudden turn in the fiscal talks? is there still time to hammer
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about whether to raise taxes, tax rates on anybody. you're going to begin to see this conversation as the conversation moves forward. the rifts in the democratic party about what programs should be cut and what programs should be saved. and i think that's a little of what you're seeing now. i don't know if it's enough to sort of throw the whole deal out. i think only those folks -- you did hear the folks, senator mcconnell saying i've called my friend joe biden, can he get to the president. it's clear that the democrats are saying that the president is the one who won't -- you know, who doesn't want to put up a counteroffer. so we'll see. >> changes by the hour. >> candy crowley, thank you as always, we'll be in touch. >> all eyes continue to be in washington as the cliff gets closer, the president insists 0 a tax hike for the rich. but the republicans won't budge. something has got to give. a.b. stoddard weighs in. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and
about whether to raise taxes, tax rates on anybody. you're going to begin to see this conversation as the conversation moves forward. the rifts in the democratic party about what programs should be cut and what programs should be saved. and i think that's a little of what you're seeing now. i don't know if it's enough to sort of throw the whole deal out. i think only those folks -- you did hear the folks, senator mcconnell saying i've called my friend joe biden, can he get to the president....
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taxes. if they want to live in america, they should otherwise go back to where they came from. if you have got people just sitting there in the 51%, just sitting without rolling, we need to get them out of the boat. here's the thing, if you have a house and cannot pay your bills, you shut off the cable, the cell phone, you get rid of the excess going to mcdonald's when you do not have the money. we have a spending situation in our government and no one wants to shut it off. the thing about it is the american people want to keep printing money, but there is a day of reckoning coming. when it comes there will be no military and we will have chaos. host -- >> it seems that much of that is focusing on the sequestration budget cuts and the cliff. set to happen and take effect on january 31. other members of other sunday shows -- by the way, we air all of the network's sunday programs on c-span radio. here is what they had to say this morning on "state of the union." [video clip] >> you have to fo
taxes. if they want to live in america, they should otherwise go back to where they came from. if you have got people just sitting there in the 51%, just sitting without rolling, we need to get them out of the boat. here's the thing, if you have a house and cannot pay your bills, you shut off the cable, the cell phone, you get rid of the excess going to mcdonald's when you do not have the money. we have a spending situation in our government and no one wants to shut it off. the thing about it...
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we need to protect the american families and businesses from this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that action is necessary. in order to get things moving, i have just spoken with the majority leader. i also placed a call to the vice president to see if he could help jump-start the negotiations on his side. the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before, and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated. the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. i was here all day yesterday. as i indicated, we submitted our latest proposal at 7:00 p.m. last night. we're willing to work with whoever, whoever can help. there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness, an interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer:
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the alternative minimum tax. a lot of money that they're scrambling to find as they also deal with the tax issues. so it's really going to depend on what those numbers look like and boehner doesn't entirely have a sense until he has a senate proposal to try to sell to his house side. >> i just want to remind our viewers, we will join fareed zakaria, "gps" in progress as we watch the senate floor and the senate in general. for any signs of progress. there used to be the hastert rule, a majority of the majority, most republicans, in this case they're at majority, must support a bill before denny hastert would put it on the house floor. i don't get a sense that's where speaker boehner is. >> you could imagine a scenario where the house could pass an agreement that's reached in the senate, with a minority of republicans and dozens of democrats make up the difference. that would essentially be john boehner falling on his sword, diving on the grenade and giving up his speakership. you know, democrats might say this wou
the alternative minimum tax. a lot of money that they're scrambling to find as they also deal with the tax issues. so it's really going to depend on what those numbers look like and boehner doesn't entirely have a sense until he has a senate proposal to try to sell to his house side. >> i just want to remind our viewers, we will join fareed zakaria, "gps" in progress as we watch the senate floor and the senate in general. for any signs of progress. there used to be the hastert...
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the payroll tax holiday. maybe you don't give the whole amount, just part of it. it adds up to $200 billion so the economy continues to grow. then the debt reduction is raised by february. >> mr. davis. he started his comment about solving this saying you have to take the politics out of it. it's not possible at this point. even though the deal, everything you heard from him, you may have agreed with and go along with it. how are you going to take the politics out of it with the clock ticking? >> if you don't get an agreement, it's going to hurt both parties. somebody may have the advantage today and tomorrow in the news headlines, if this doesn't happen, it hurts the president's legacy, it hardens the lines between them. this is not, as joe said, complicated to solve over the short term. long term, a little more complicated. if they can't get through this, it makes it much more difficult over the long term. >> to both of you here, you heard something the president said. david gregory pushed back on the presi
the payroll tax holiday. maybe you don't give the whole amount, just part of it. it adds up to $200 billion so the economy continues to grow. then the debt reduction is raised by february. >> mr. davis. he started his comment about solving this saying you have to take the politics out of it. it's not possible at this point. even though the deal, everything you heard from him, you may have agreed with and go along with it. how are you going to take the politics out of it with the clock...
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details on a brand-new sales tax. and senator libbedy graham has been an outspoken critic of president barack obama for years. but what is he saying today? >> if the president doesn't deal with this, he is a lousy commander in chief. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you realldon't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it findone, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all youeed is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> you are not only going to cut your way to prosperity. >> we have not seen the leade
details on a brand-new sales tax. and senator libbedy graham has been an outspoken critic of president barack obama for years. but what is he saying today? >> if the president doesn't deal with this, he is a lousy commander in chief. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. time for...
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tax hook would only fund the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what is the president -- what does the president propose we do for the other 357 days of the year. >> reporter: president obama insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> reporter: if sunday's negotiations don't pan out, the president said he's ready to propose his own scaled-back bill that would block tax increases for all but the wealthy. and preserve expiring unemployment benefits. with the deficit ticking ever higher, patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us who invest in the stock market, it's disgusting to watch them jockey around with our money. >> reporter: missing in all the last-minute negotiations is talk of the $1.2 trillion of mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into affect today. tara mergener for cbs news, washington. >>> former president george h.w. bush is 88 years old and sent to the hospital last month in hous
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. >> politicians on both sides have the responsibility but the president's tax hike will not do much to address the debt. >> the top 25 of american will not even pay one-third of the annual interest that is owed for this 16 trillion dollar debt. >> washington will return before the end of the year but they are likely to be burning the midnight oil. >>> we'll take a quick break on kron 4 news weekend. but first, let's take a live look outside at san francisco from our roof cam here on van ness avenue. let's take a quick look outside this morning at san francisco. outside this morning at san francisco. oh, you have a keurig vue brewer? oh, it's great! now i can brew my coffee just the way i love it. how do you do that? well, inside the brewer, there's this train that's powerful enough to carry more coffee and fresh water to make coffee that's stronger and bigger... and even hotter! actually, i just press this button. brew the coffee you love -- stronger, bigger, or hotter -- with the keurig vue. oh, did you want it? yea we'll split it. [ female announcer ] made fresh, so light, buttery
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the new york times is why the economy needs tax reform. tax reform done right. higher taxes raise progressively. caller: i cannot understand why it is the bureaucrats are able to control all the american citizens. i think there ought to be term limits. if they do not do their job why don't me through all of them out and appoint somebody? they are the ones that get the point slip. the epa is pushing along. they have this right here just a few miles from me. every bit of pork barrel spending there is, their pensions would be cut. they would have to have the statements to push down the american people consider having a set of rules for them. all this does is make it harder on the middle-class. i see this every day in the east door. the government is spending all the money. host: a lot of frustration. guest: it is not always fraud and abuse. we have a deficit of $1 trillion in a budget that is about $1 trillion. we are not going to balance the budget. a lot of what your suggestion are changes in the constitution. the elected representatives are largely doing what th
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the democrats insist the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hike would only fund the government for l days. americans deserve to know what does the president propose we do for the over 357 days of the year. sdmrsz -- >> president omaba insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just afford a wound to our economy. >> if sunday's negotiations don't pan out the president says he's red to -- he's ready to propose his own scaled back bill that would preserve expiring unemployment benefits. >> with the deficit ticking higher -- >> it's disgusting. >> miss ing in all the last minute negotiations is talk of the 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into effect tuesday. >> the fiscal cliff count down is the big topic on this morning's fogs the morning -- face the nation. there's two big visitors. it starts right after this newscast at 8:30 on cbs 5. >>> plastic shopping bags may soon be the fast. >> the final 2 days for those bags in an entire bay area county. >> a 2012 close, a look back at some of the big stories in
the democrats insist the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hike would only fund the government for l days. americans deserve to know what does the president propose we do for the over 357 days of the year. sdmrsz -- >> president omaba insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just afford a wound to our economy. >> if sunday's negotiations don't pan out the president says he's red to -- he's ready to...
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and, every working american's taxes will go up january 1st if they do nothing about the payroll tax, a pretty big increase, and, defense cuts and everyone agrees, with that policy to have middle class americans' taxes go up, and, it totally irresponsible defense cuts and this is what congress thinks is a good deal. >> chris: i'm not sure it is a good deal but avoids the worst of the fiscal cliff. senator bayh -- obviously, we don't know, what is your sense, no filibuster in the senate? you heard lindsay graham and do republicans pass whatever the senate agrees to? >> the odds are somewhat better than 50/50 we get a minimal deal in the senate. not one that solves our debt problem, as you pointed out earlier and this is a prequel to going through it again around the first of march over the debt ceiling and getting us through this crisis, slightly better than 50-50 and the real question is in the house of representatives and will it be enough of a compromise, that enough republicans can vote for it, to get through the house? i put that at 50-50. >> chris: byron, the most we can say, or
and, every working american's taxes will go up january 1st if they do nothing about the payroll tax, a pretty big increase, and, defense cuts and everyone agrees, with that policy to have middle class americans' taxes go up, and, it totally irresponsible defense cuts and this is what congress thinks is a good deal. >> chris: i'm not sure it is a good deal but avoids the worst of the fiscal cliff. senator bayh -- obviously, we don't know, what is your sense, no filibuster in the senate?...
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. >> that's with the $250,000 and under keeping their tax rate. everybody else gets a tax hike? >> i live in an alternate reality. the grew of age in politics in the clinton administration and watched pelosi and harry reid vote for tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you still have nearly half a trillion dollars a year, $5 trillion over ten years worth of deficit. that's because while we grew the -- under bush the taxes revenue went up 25%, and spending went up 100% in the last 12 years. if you put back the revenue from the higher taxes, you still have a deficit. that's what we're trying to change. >> we kind of are where we are,
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i think the payroll tax was so for the making tax credit. so when that wasn't renewed that was the best option. i think the payroll tax cut is the best option. i feel like i'm one note on this but to go back to what i said earlier. ultimately, what will keep social security sustainable is the rate of growth in the economy. and i had to trade a couple more years of reduced revenue for social security for more growth, i think more growth is the right trade to make. i'm worried -- a lot of worrying about if we keep the payroll tax low or we lose money for social security over the long term? probably, but i think it's offset by the additional growth you get from just having lower unemployment and faster gdp growth and the whole nine yards. >> one thing that the way they have deviced the payroll tax holiday, they say technically speaking they're not taking money from social security. they're replacing it with money from the general budget. so you never actually have, a gap. but the concern is that that ends up lumping together social security, wh
i think the payroll tax was so for the making tax credit. so when that wasn't renewed that was the best option. i think the payroll tax cut is the best option. i feel like i'm one note on this but to go back to what i said earlier. ultimately, what will keep social security sustainable is the rate of growth in the economy. and i had to trade a couple more years of reduced revenue for social security for more growth, i think more growth is the right trade to make. i'm worried -- a lot of...
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analysts say taxes on people making between 50,000 and $75,000 a year will go up an average of $2400. >> whenever we come up -- whatever we come up is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it, some people will like it less but that's where we are. i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. >> reporter: president obama says it's important for congress to vote on some type of package before the fiscal cliff deadline expires. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an upor -- up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from a hike, extends insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the current congress only be in session until january 3rd. after that, 13 new senators and 82 new house members will take over and inherit this huge problem, right out of the congressional gate.
analysts say taxes on people making between 50,000 and $75,000 a year will go up an average of $2400. >> whenever we come up -- whatever we come up is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it, some people will like it less but that's where we are. i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. >> reporter: president obama says it's important for congress to vote on some type of package before the...
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estate tax, that's a big sticking point. the senate republicans will insist it sticks at its current rate. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hard ball," the place for politics. [ buzzing ] for politics. bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. "are you a cool mom?" i'm gonna find out. [ female announcer ] swiffer wetjet's pads are better than ever. now they have the scrubbing power of mr. clean magic eraser so you don't have to get down on your hands and knees to scrub away tough, dried-on stains. hey, do you guys think i'm "momtacular" or "momtrocious"? ♪ [ female announcer ] swiffer. now with the scrubbing power of mr. cl
estate tax, that's a big sticking point. the senate republicans will insist it sticks at its current rate. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hard ball," the place for politics. [ buzzing ] for politics. bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. starts with...
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is it just numbers in terms of tax brackets, were specific tax proposals? guest: believe what the two are fighting over is the threshold of the tax rates -- who is wealthy? people who make over $250,000 a year, or should that number be higher, $400,000, $500,000? another big sticking point is the estate tax. this has received a preferential tax rate dating back to the bush era tax cuts. it was extended again two years ago. that is the real sticking point. it divides the senate democrats. there are a number of senate democrats up for reelection in 2014 that not want to see that tax rate rise. that is a political football here as well. host: as we are in the final hours, what is motivating congress more, public perception, the stock market's? guest: i think it is both of those things. the stock market, all of the analysts i have talked to, they built in a certain amount of time to give congress a face to work this out. increasingly, there is concern that if they do not work this out, the markets will react. particularly kagel we go over the cliff and there is
is it just numbers in terms of tax brackets, were specific tax proposals? guest: believe what the two are fighting over is the threshold of the tax rates -- who is wealthy? people who make over $250,000 a year, or should that number be higher, $400,000, $500,000? another big sticking point is the estate tax. this has received a preferential tax rate dating back to the bush era tax cuts. it was extended again two years ago. that is the real sticking point. it divides the senate democrats. there...
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an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison? >> thanks. >>> lawmakers could vote as early as today and when it happens, you can watch live coverage right here on cnn. >>> the president will continue to plead his case for a deal today. he's making his first appearance on a sunday talk show in more than three years. he'll be on nbc's "meet the press." he'll call for an immediately vote for congress on a scale-back plan that would only extend middle class tax breaks if the negotiations fail. >>> other news now, second degree murder as a hate
an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits...
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you know, for extending the bush tax cuts, is it 250,000 and above, that you let the taxes go up, is it 400, 500,000, ultimately what it comes down to, harry reid says i can get enough votes from democrats to support this plan. >> and democrats say and republicans say that would be about the 1 percent-ers, so-called 1 percenters would hit that 400,000 a year maybe higher, up to 500,000, what revenue does this generate? we've been hearing about this for a long time. what does it actually generate? well, if we take about 12.4 days to run the federal government, that's the amount of money extra that the government would bring in to run the federal government. that's how much we spend in 12 days. so, all of this fighting back and forth, that's why so much is being said or lack of-- i guess i should say, lack of being said about cuts. and the real way we can grow this economy is cuts. get all of this out of control spending in place first. >> dave: right, and just the conversation alone that we're now having, the american people are the loser in this deal because none of this talk is abou
you know, for extending the bush tax cuts, is it 250,000 and above, that you let the taxes go up, is it 400, 500,000, ultimately what it comes down to, harry reid says i can get enough votes from democrats to support this plan. >> and democrats say and republicans say that would be about the 1 percent-ers, so-called 1 percenters would hit that 400,000 a year maybe higher, up to 500,000, what revenue does this generate? we've been hearing about this for a long time. what does it actually...
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. >> the homestead tax credit is a credit given by the state of maryland that caps the assessment of your property, your real estate, your personal residence, basically. >> we should all closely watch negotiations on capitol hill. if we go over the fiscal cliff, our 2013 taxes will be dramatically affected and it's significant me to -- enough that most will see the difference in the paychecks immediately. >> if you are an employee making $100,000 a year, automatically you'll see a $2,000 increase in social security withholding. >> for more tax tips or information, visit wbaltv.com. >> flying is getting easier for some travelers. the pilot program in place at airports. exciting news for bargain shoppers. when a new nordstrom's rack will pop up and local retailers hope to cash in on the ravens' success. >> we begin this morning's consumer alert with exciting news for shoppers in columbia. a nordstrom's rack is opening up as early as next spring at columbia crossing, located off of the jessop exit at i-95. the merchandise is in season and on trend, separate nordstrom stores. it's usuall
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and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you tax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk little bit about competitiveness. let's detail that. low capital gains is important to our nation's competitiveness. but also, to the competitiveness of these companies that we are talking about. >> absolutely. let's say that you are a young indian or chinese entrepreneur with a science degree or engineering degree and you gradua from mit. you want to start a high-tech company. would you started in the united states, where you're getting from your company years down the road will be taxed at 30%, or would you started in china or india where the capital gains tax rate is zero? many of our major partners have zero
and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you tax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk little bit about...
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we have a current tax rate, 15%. on january 1, the capital gains tax ra will jump to 23.8%. i talked to a lot of my frien and they say that's not a big dumb. what you say? >> it is a big jump. if you add state taxes on top of that, the united states will be up to 20%. our major trading partners, britain and europe and canada -- they are oly 16%. so there is a very good reason why just about every industrial country has a really low capital gains tax rate. that's because policymakers just about everywhere know that low capital gains tax rates are crucial for a growthof economy and entrepreneurship and high-technology industries. gerri: so what if we compare favorably with a lot of developed countries out there -- what would be the practical effect? >> it will slow the flow of venture capital and investment for high-technology companies. if you think about every major high-tech company like apple or microsoft or ebay or amazon, they were all nurtured by high income people putting money in early on to these startup companies. we dramatically cut the capital gains ta rate from 4
we have a current tax rate, 15%. on january 1, the capital gains tax ra will jump to 23.8%. i talked to a lot of my frien and they say that's not a big dumb. what you say? >> it is a big jump. if you add state taxes on top of that, the united states will be up to 20%. our major trading partners, britain and europe and canada -- they are oly 16%. so there is a very good reason why just about every industrial country has a really low capital gains tax rate. that's because policymakers just...
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be able to offer compromised plan. >>> they will have two days to strike a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes for everyone and also to avoid across-the-board spending cuts. audrey barns has more on that fiscal cliff countdown. >> reporter: lawmakers summoned to the white house for an emergency summit to try to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and describe the talks as productive. they didn't produce an agreement. from the senate floor, words of optimism from minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we're engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house and in hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> reporter: harry reid took a cautionary town, perhaps to allay the fears of americans who are wonder how long going off the cliff will affect their paychecks. analysts say taxes on people making between 50,075,000 a year will go up an average of $2,500. >> whatever we go up is going to bem perfect. some people are not going to like it and some will like it less and that is where we are. i feel confident we have an obligati
be able to offer compromised plan. >>> they will have two days to strike a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes for everyone and also to avoid across-the-board spending cuts. audrey barns has more on that fiscal cliff countdown. >> reporter: lawmakers summoned to the white house for an emergency summit to try to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and describe the talks as productive. they didn't produce an agreement. from the senate floor, words of optimism from minority...
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, tax reform and tax incentives for charitable giving. back to the phones. jack in michigan, on our line for independence. go ahead, jack. caller: i want to ask mr. rosenberg if he has ever heard of lincoln electric in cleveland, ohio. host: and why did he wanted to know that? caller: well, they wrote a book, james f. lincoln wrote a book, a new approach to industrial economics where they have no unions. everybody is responsible for their own work. they do peace work. everybody's responsible. everybody has a lifetime job. they get huge pieces of the pie. and ownership is -- the people, the workers, everybody owns the piece of the pie. host: what does this have to do with the fiscal cliff? caller: well, if more -- if more people -- if more industries would go to that, they wouldn't fall off the cliff. everybody would go to work. host: mr. rosenberg? guest: so i haven't heard of that but it sounds like a great place to be and live. i would have to get the name of that again. host: next up is don on the washington redskins. -- "washington jo
, tax reform and tax incentives for charitable giving. back to the phones. jack in michigan, on our line for independence. go ahead, jack. caller: i want to ask mr. rosenberg if he has ever heard of lincoln electric in cleveland, ohio. host: and why did he wanted to know that? caller: well, they wrote a book, james f. lincoln wrote a book, a new approach to industrial economics where they have no unions. everybody is responsible for their own work. they do peace work. everybody's responsible....
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you start taxing capital gans and dividends, reinstate that and get rid of $10 billion in corporate taxes every year. you're looking it over $300 billion. ." tom: upside-down by trillion closet -- a trillion dollars. not even close to fixing the deficit spending. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of class warfare rhetoric is serving a purpose. the reality is the proposed tax increases will fund the federal government for approximately eight days. it might make people feel good and that's a reason to pass it. frankly, i don't hear any politicians talking reality but the fiscal problems facing the country which is democrat or republican. tom: do you have any hope that the blame game can be put aside so they can get some work done? in the private sector these people would be fired. >> absolutely. this is a do nothing congress, the least active in four years when it comes to policy making, and the reason we are here is that the delay decisions for the past two years. i do think that something will happen because if it doesn't the consequences will be
you start taxing capital gans and dividends, reinstate that and get rid of $10 billion in corporate taxes every year. you're looking it over $300 billion. ." tom: upside-down by trillion closet -- a trillion dollars. not even close to fixing the deficit spending. still adding to the debt under republican and democrat programs >> this kind of class warfare rhetoric is serving a purpose. the reality is the proposed tax increases will fund the federal government for approximately eight...
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president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. >>> but in a last minnesota minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front, and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect, starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would exp
president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and...
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the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising the dollar revenue from them is sort of less harmful than it is from lower income folks. so, i mean, those debates are worth having, but i think when you actually get down to the specifics and play it out, things like a straight flat tax or national retail sales tax don't make a lot of sense. host: we've been talking with joseph rosenberg, a research associate at the tax policy center. if you want to get more information about the work that they do, you can go to our website, taxpolicycenter.org. part of the urban tax policy working center. thank you very much for being on the program. >> it is f
the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising...
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people making 40 to $65,000 get a $2,000 tax hike and anyone, would see a $14,000 tax bump. where else would americans see the sting? talk to me about medicare and unemployment benefits. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things that would be right away in a negative impact would be unemployment benefits and 2 million americans would see the unemployment benefits and that would hurt the economy and that would hurt these people that are relying on this and the unemployment insurance has been seen as economic stimulus to get hands into the money of people who need it and they were things that actually get spread over the course of 2013 if there is no fix that is actually done and it is possible for congress to go back and fix things and talking about the increase of tax rates and there will also be spending cuts to gover
people making 40 to $65,000 get a $2,000 tax hike and anyone, would see a $14,000 tax bump. where else would americans see the sting? talk to me about medicare and unemployment benefits. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things...
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and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case known and actually go on the record. that's why the question is would the republican senators who would oppose
and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal...
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the headline, you know, item is tax estimates. tax revenues and where tax rates will increase. what's the threshold. democrats have been saying that they would like tax increases to affect households that make $250,000 and more. they would also insist on extending unemployment benefits. they would like to see -- the president would like a delay in those automatic spending cuts, those massive spending cuts that congress set into motion that should hit beginning in the new year. and then also an increase in the estate tax, which is also planned to hit in the new year. republicans would like, in order to be able to vote for some sort of deal, to limit that threshold and where -- a limit the threshold where the tax increase hits so maybe instead of $250,000 maybe $400,000, a way to avoid that estate tax increase, they would like no delay in those spending cuts, so that they will start to hit in the new year. and they would like democrats to agree to pay for the unemployment benefits. now we don't know if -- which of these items would be in the deal they're working out today, except
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raised the capital gains tax, the top marginal tax rates, but also tax increases distract from what the country needs to do. we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this fight for a long time and you've been devoted to the whole idea of not seeing taxes increase anywhere. but what we're down to right now is largely a political battle over the increase in marginal tax rates based on what you earn. i understand there's a lot more to this puzzle, but on that front, because that's the one that gets most of the ink around here, whether people who earn more than $250,000 or $400,000 or $1 million should may-pay more tax. the point is that's not going to hurt the economy. that's all we're talking about. paying 4.6%, 8 points higher on your income over $250,000, empirically t
raised the capital gains tax, the top marginal tax rates, but also tax increases distract from what the country needs to do. we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this...
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hunter: that sales tax counts for about a third of the revenue of the department right now. franklin: we got 75% of the voters to agree to tax themselves so that their children and their children's children could have clean water because we're investing in it now. hunter: there were no alternatives. the infrastructure was in dire straits. a lot of people didn't want to believe it had to be done, but it had to be done. what came out of those lawsuits by the upper chattahoochee river keeper were two consent decrees, focused on overflows. the intent is, city of atlanta, you need to keep the flows in the pipe. narrator: with the help of the funding the city raised, atlanta has been implementing an asset management plan that evaluates and addresses their infrastructure issues. hunter: it's a continuum. at one end, you have your regular maintenance that you do every day on the system, and at the other end, long-term planning so that every year we're repairing, replacing the right things, and we don't have to do it all at once, which is, quite frankly, what we're having to do in at
hunter: that sales tax counts for about a third of the revenue of the department right now. franklin: we got 75% of the voters to agree to tax themselves so that their children and their children's children could have clean water because we're investing in it now. hunter: there were no alternatives. the infrastructure was in dire straits. a lot of people didn't want to believe it had to be done, but it had to be done. what came out of those lawsuits by the upper chattahoochee river keeper were...
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cuts or not for tax cuts? so people are a little smarter than that. and a lot of members of congress are wary. so if they get democrats to vote for this, that's going to be a bipartisan deal they can all hang their hats on. but does it achieve the long-term reform the president and a lot of conservative republicans say they're looking to see in government? >> i'm really glad you said that. david she hit on something important. you can't avoid this debate. it's everywhere. but she just suggested we're not going to fall for that. you're not going to fool us. you're not going to come back and say we went off the cliff and now we're voting for taxes. we're not going to fall for that. so who is going to come out if there is a deal before january 1? who's going to come out looking into this? is anybody? who's going to come out looking bad or worse than bad? >> a couple of thimgs things, t.j. i think it depend on what the ultimate deal is and where that line for threshold on tax increases is. looking ahead to the 201
cuts or not for tax cuts? so people are a little smarter than that. and a lot of members of congress are wary. so if they get democrats to vote for this, that's going to be a bipartisan deal they can all hang their hats on. but does it achieve the long-term reform the president and a lot of conservative republicans say they're looking to see in government? >> i'm really glad you said that. david she hit on something important. you can't avoid this debate. it's everywhere. but she just...
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mainly trying to find a way to avoid those tax hikes for most americans. that could also include an extension of unemployment benefits. what is unclear is whether other things such as budget cuts eliminating that sequester that's coming up or other things will be in that deal. when will all of this happen? the soon they could vote is tomorrow, but leadership tells us that they are just hoping to get the outlines of a deal to their members tomorrow so a vote also possible monday. that's when senator reid has said he wants the vote to hap n happen. again, just to be clear, we don't think anything on the sequester will be in this deal at this point or the debt ceiling. those are other issues floating around. right now this deal seems more focused and small. let's listen to what the two senators were saying last night, sounding more optimistic. >> it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it was a very serious meeting and it took an extended period of time, as you all know, waiting for u
mainly trying to find a way to avoid those tax hikes for most americans. that could also include an extension of unemployment benefits. what is unclear is whether other things such as budget cuts eliminating that sequester that's coming up or other things will be in that deal. when will all of this happen? the soon they could vote is tomorrow, but leadership tells us that they are just hoping to get the outlines of a deal to their members tomorrow so a vote also possible monday. that's when...
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people dumped tax returns, pictures of old lovers and anything that wreaks of 2012. a giant shredder, a dumpster and a rubber mallet were on hand to help people complete their mission. the event really is to say good- bye to past worries and fears. >>> a california -- california fans of the 1950s, '60s and '70s have a new way to show it, on cars. the dmv will start selling replica license plate designs from those years and the plates aren't just for classic car owners. they can be ordered for any type of vehicle. >> you can have it on your prius, you can have it on your -- you know, your new camaro. you can have it on anything, right? >> that's cool. a new way for california to make money. the legacy license plates cost $50 whether you personalize them or not. they're available to preorder starting on january 1st. i like that good riddance day. >> you know, the first car i ever bought, my '64mgb which we used on "eye on the bay," i had it in high school and it still has the first license plates. >> really. >> it came with it. i didn't buy it when it was new. i just s
people dumped tax returns, pictures of old lovers and anything that wreaks of 2012. a giant shredder, a dumpster and a rubber mallet were on hand to help people complete their mission. the event really is to say good- bye to past worries and fears. >>> a california -- california fans of the 1950s, '60s and '70s have a new way to show it, on cars. the dmv will start selling replica license plate designs from those years and the plates aren't just for classic car owners. they can be...
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that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time there was a pay raise was 2009. >>> there is one thing the senate has agreed on, getting aid to victims of superstorm sandy. by a 61-33 vote the chamber passed a measure offering $60 billion in help. it heads to the house which must approve the bill by thursday or else the process to consider the money has to start all over again. at least 113 people were killed when superstorm sandy hit in late october. the governors of new york and new jersey, the hardest hit states, have estimated damages at more than $78 billion. >>> and turning to weather. even though winter is just over a week old, millions of americans probably can't wait for spring to arrive. me, as well, yes. scenes like this in maine are playing out all across the country as snow is now on the ground in almost 65% of the lower 48 states. at least everybody's enjoying it together. look at this video from arkansas where
that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time there was a pay raise was 2009. >>> there is one thing the senate has agreed on, getting aid to victims of superstorm sandy. by a 61-33 vote the chamber passed a measure offering $60 billion in help. it heads to the house which must approve the bill by thursday or else the process to consider the money has to start all over again. at least 113...
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from the alternative minimum tax. it is all very urgent stuff that needs to be done. there are only two even remotely controversial pieces of this, what to do with the estate tax and where or how to define the wealthy people whose taxes are going to go up. the rest of it is basically protecting people from tax hikes, extending unemployment benefits for some time is controversial for republicans, but it appears to have a great they would do that if -- it appears that they have agreed. it can be relatively easily if they can reach agreement on what to do about taxes for the rich. >> in your article in the "washington post," this morning, you quote majority harry reid who says, whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. he said on the floor before dozens of silent and a tentative senators, we're going to do the best we can for the country. it seems like he ihas made his decision. what is it going to take to get the rest of the folks to go along with him? >> we will not really know that until tomorrow. one of the
from the alternative minimum tax. it is all very urgent stuff that needs to be done. there are only two even remotely controversial pieces of this, what to do with the estate tax and where or how to define the wealthy people whose taxes are going to go up. the rest of it is basically protecting people from tax hikes, extending unemployment benefits for some time is controversial for republicans, but it appears to have a great they would do that if -- it appears that they have agreed. it can be...
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nearly every american will see a tax increase. and unemployment benefits will expire for millions. >> ordinary people do their jobs and meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements there will sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership cannot do the same thing is mind-boggling. it needs to stop! >> we'll be right back here on the kron four morning news. [ female announcer ] this is a special message from at&t. [ male announcer ] it's no secret that the price of things just keeps going up. [ female announcer ] but we have some good news. it's our bundle price promise. [ male announcer ] a price you can definitely count on, for two whole years. from at&t. [ female announcer ] a great price for a great triple-play bundle. [ male announcer ] call now. bundles with u-verse tv, internet and home phone start at $89 a month. now get the same great price for two years. [ female announcer ] switch today and get a total home dvr included, free for life. [ male
nearly every american will see a tax increase. and unemployment benefits will expire for millions. >> ordinary people do their jobs and meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements there will sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership cannot do the same thing is mind-boggling. it needs to stop! >> we'll be right back here on the kron four morning news. [ female announcer ] this is a special message...